[Slackbuilds-users] [ANNOUNCE]: Slackware 13.37 rc1 and SBo
T3slider
t3slider at gmail.com
Mon Mar 14 18:12:18 UTC 2011
Bumping the version number for every package on SBo would be the
equivalent of doing `slackpkg clean-system` and recompiling each
third-party application from slackbuilds.org -- which would be the
standard advice for anyone having such troubles with multiple packages.
Otherwise, applications that may be ABI-compatible with dependencies
from Slackware 13.37 would need to maintain the same build number while
others that would require a recompile would need a bump. Determining
which ones would need this is too much effort in my opinion, especially
when you get into issues like an application breaking not because it
isn't ABI-compatible with Slackware packages, but because it isn't
ABI-compatible with an SBo dependency that breaks with new Slackware.
You can take your chances running old 13.1-compiled apps on 13.37 and
recompile those that are broken, or clean-system and rebuild them all
(`ls /var/log/packages/*_SBo` would get a list). Of course you would
need to build them in the right order which would involve reading
READMEs or using build queues. In the end, I don't think bumping
versions has *any* benefit that I can see and it's certainly more work
anyway.
On Mon, Mar 14, 2011 at 01:38:10PM -0400, Ben Mendis wrote:
> Perhaps I misunderstood. I thought the proposal was to bump the build
> number for SlackBuilds in the new 13.37 repository that would need to be
> rebuilt after updating from 13.1 (as a convenience to sbopkg users). I had
> assumed that the SlackBuilds in the 13.1 repository would stay the same
> since no re-build was necessary.
>
> Also, I realize that the build number can be specified at build-time, but
> that doesn't provide any assistance to sbopkg users at all, they would
> still need to manually add each package to the queue to be rebuilt.
> (Furthermore, sbopkg seems to lack the ability to override the default
> BUILD or TAG on a per-package basis, but that has nothing to do with SBo
> itself.)
>
> I can accept the argument that the build number reflects changes in the
> SlackBuild itself, but there didn't seem to be any harm in making an
> exception in this situation.
>
> Oh well, it just means that users will need to do a bit more manual work
> (and we'll probably find ourselves answering a lot of very similar
> questions on LQ and ##slackware after people upgrade), but that really
> nothing new.
>
> Would it be acceptable for maintainers to submit a build bump if they
> wanted to, or is there a hard "NO" on this issue?
> Not that it even affects me since I don't currently maintain any packages
> which would be affected.
>
> --
> - hba
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