[Slackbuilds-users] Email rejected during submission

Erik Hanson erik at slackbuilds.org
Sat Nov 4 23:18:50 UTC 2017


On 11/04/2017 04:52 PM, johannes at schoepfer.info wrote:
>> The address verification probes are done on the SBo web server, not
>> on the mail server.
> 
> Ok, then the web server does something with hotmail's mx servers, are
> there logs?

No, it's not an MTA. It does this:
lookup MX and connect, wait for 220
send HELO slackbuilds.org
wait for response
send MAIL FROM: <slackbuilds-users at slackbuilds.org>
wait for 250
send RCPT TO: <$Email>
wait for 250
send QUIT

If either response is not 250 then it's considered rejected. It's very
simple, follows the RFC, and works 99.99% of the time. I'm not
personally interested in any suggestions for making it more robust, as
I'm confident that would only raise the failure rate until we've either
written an entire MTA or unnecessarily swapped it out for a proper one.

>>> but i got several bad experiences in the last few years with
>>> hotmail and their unpredictable mail handling/policy changes,
>>> spamhandling leading to disappead mails which accepted in first
>>> place with 250, broken html-Mails by the webfrontend etc.
>>>
>>> I doubt hotmail will help you, and if, it is likely it will be
>>> broken again some month later.
>>
>> Actually no again.  Right now it seems that Microsoft is among the
>> most responsive in the industry.  I would not hesitate to ask them
>> for help, but unfortunately I have nothing to go on.
> 
> Daniel and Jorge aren't able to submit via hotmail, and your statement
> is that the problem is not an SBo's side.
> 
> @Jorge: The git log says you submitted obnc-libstd on 2017-10-31 with
> your hotmail-address. I don't know much of git and what's possible, was
> that mailaddress the one you used to submit or not?

A quick check of old submissions suggests they are not. The email
address you use to submit does not need to match the info file, is not
stored anywhere, and will not be displayed anywhere. It is only used for
sending you a confirmation email containing a removal code.

At the end of the day, it was working and now it isn't. The code on the
server for checking emails has not changed in many years, so something
at hotmail has changed. Either use another address on the submit form,
or contact Microsoft if it really bothers you and you want it fixed.


-- 
Erik

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