[Slackbuilds-users] sage up for grabs UNMAINTAINED
JCA
1.41421 at gmail.com
Tue Oct 23 17:03:24 UTC 2018
Thanks for taking care of this. It sure beats having to build the beast
from scratch - which, unless one has a rather beefy machine, will take
forever. This aside from the relocation issues.
On Tue, Oct 23, 2018 at 12:37 AM Duncan Roe <duncan_roe at optusnet.com.au>
wrote:
> Hi JCA,
>
> On Tue, Aug 21, 2018 at 06:13:21PM -0600, JCA wrote:
> > On Tue, Aug 21, 2018 at 5:49 PM, Duncan Roe <duncan_roe at optusnet.com.au>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > On Mon, Aug 13, 2018 at 09:08:46AM -0600, JCA wrote:
> > > > Why not use the Debian binary tarball that is available in the Sage
> > > > website? I have just tried (for Sage 8.3) and it seems to work fine.
> Here
> > > > is what I did:
> > > >
> > > > 1. As root, unpacked the tarball in /opt. This create /opt/SageMath.
> > > > 2. cd /opt/SageMath.
> > > > 3. ./sage. This patches up Sage's files (black magic?) and launches
> Sage.
> > > > You end up at the Sage CLI. It can be checked out that it works, at
> least
> > > > for simple operations - like, e.g. an integration.
> > > > 4. Exit Sage.
> > > > 5. cd /usr/local/bin.
> > > > 6. ln -s /opt/SageMath/sage ./sage.
> > > > 7. Exit root.
> > > > 8. Assuming that /usr/local/bin is in your path, launch Sage by
> invoking
> > > > the sage command.
> > > > 9. Verify that it works.
> > > >
> > > > Assuming that the above keeps working when using more esoteric Sage
> > > > capabilities, getting a Slackbuilds script to do all that should be
> > > > straightforward. I haven't tried building for sources, but I find it
> > > > difficult to believe that the Debian binary tarball is created using
> some
> > > > knowledge available to members of the inner circle alone.
> > > >
> > > > If I am missing something here please let me know.
> > > >
> > > Hi JCA,
> > >
> > > Sounds like it should be easy enough to automate into a build script
> using
> > > mkchroot. I can give it a go (but I'm not a sage user). Could you
> please
> > > clarify a couple if items:
> > >
> > > 1. Does ./sage really work after cd-ing to a freshly created directory?
> > >
> >
> > I am not sure I understand your question. What I describe allows one
> to
> > install the Sage executable under /usr/local/bin, and launch it from
> > anywhere, provided that /usr/local/bin is in your path. You would only
> > invoked ./sage from /usr/local/bin, but - why would you want to that?
> >
> > >
> > > 2. I assume checking with an integration is not essential to the build
> > > process -
> > > is that correct?
> > >
> >
> > That integration is nothing but a very basic functional test of the
> > installed product. I just used the Debian package - I did not build Sage
> > myself, for it takes ages and a serious system. I am merely pointing out
> > that, following the steps I described above, one ends up with a Sage
> > environment that seems to work fine, and one does not have to suffer the
> > punishment that the original maintainer described in order to install it
> in
> > a sensible location. I have tried a few other things in the resulting
> Sage,
> > and they all seem to work.
> >
> >
> > > Cheers ... Duncan.
> > > >
> > > > On Fri, Aug 10, 2018 at 11:26 AM, Didier Spaier <didier at slint.fr>
> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > I forgot: his user a set specific user "maths" for that.
> > > > >
> > > > > On 08/10/2018 07:23 PM, Didier Spaier wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On 08/10/2018 04:22 AM, Daniel Prosser wrote:
> > > > > >> Perhaps if upstream is fighting so hard to make it *not*
> possible to
> > > > > package
> > > > > >> sage, the best course of action is just to honor their intent
> and
> > > stop
> > > > > trying
> > > > > >> (take it off SBo). Just my two cents as someone who does not
> use it
> > > > > anyway (so
> > > > > >> maybe it's actually only worth one cent).
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I am not an user either, but I once compiled it as regular user
> just
> > > to
> > > > > check
> > > > > > its ability to make png files for graphs, for an actual (and
> blind)
> > > user.
> > > > > > I just asked this friend, he is currently using the 8.1 version.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > As for maths there is nothing close to sage's features I'd
> suggest
> > > > > > not providing a SlackBuild but a README explaining the situation.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Just my 0.02???.
>
> Thanks for getting back with answers to my dumb questions and sorry for the
> noise.
>
> I went ahead and submitted (what became) sage-bin-8.3 (thanks for all the
> work,
> mods) and it's been on SBO for just over a month now.
>
> I guess I should have posted to this thread about that :/
>
> It's a package of the Debian tarball as you suggested, installs (a
> symlink) in
> /usr/bin works from anywhere etc. etc.
>
> I did try some plots and they looked fine, but mostly I just (mis-)use it
> to do
> proper-fraction arithmetic - it's great!
>
> Cheers ... Duncan.
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