[Slackbuilds-users] OPTIONAL field [was: qemu/spice-gtk and usbredir]

Andrzej Telszewski atelszewski at gmail.com
Sun Nov 6 10:47:59 UTC 2016

On 06/11/16 04:39, Erik Hanson wrote:
>> On 06/11/16 03:33, Erik Hanson wrote:
>>>> > >> You kinda have point with the context of the deps, but we're not
>>>> > >> here
>>>>> > >> > to babysit people. One shall README, period.
>>> > > And there is the crux of the entire matter. Currently, we expect
>>> > > people to read the README. A machine-readable field of optional
>>> > > deps means people have even less reason to read the README. Nothing
>>> > > good comes of this. A few power users might be okay, but the other
>>> > > 99.9% of people: fucked. Our goal has always been a repo of scripts
>>> > > that reliably create valid packages. OPTIONAL provides too many
>>> > > ways for that to go wrong.
>>> > >
>>> > > Read the README and you're golden.
>> >
>> > Well, I don't know. This feels kinda bad. Like babysitting.
>> > It's Linux in the end, you are expected to know more less what you're
>> > doing. There are many more ways to screw up your system.
> We should just delete the HOWTO and FAQ pages, I guess. Wouldn't want
> to babysit.
> I'm not sure how you get from "please read the README files, they
> contain vital information" to "we need to hold your hand". The only
> argument that I'm making is that demonstrably important information
> can be contained in the README file, and that we shouldn't give anyone
> a reason to bypass that information. It's not babysitting, it's not
> hand-holding, it's literally saying there is information here, it's
> important, and we CANNOT convey it to you in an OPTIONAL="" field.
> Sorry, but you have to do some reading. Please, I beg of you, tell me
> how reading up on things and gaining some understanding of how they
> work is not the Slackware way.

I'm sorry for not being explicit.
If you look at my messages, you'll notice that I do encourage to read 
What I meant by babysitting was that you tell people to read README, but 
they don't do it anyway.

Best regards,
Andrzej Telszewski

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