[Slackbuilds-users] Package versions

Harald Achitz harald.achitz at gmail.com
Fri Jan 20 17:12:35 UTC 2017

Here my 2 cents

Here is a list of files changed from Qt 5.6.1 to 5.6.2
each of the files contain a list of bugs.
5.6.2 has been release in October, this is quite a while ago.
A update of Qt LTS is not about having the latest and greatest, it is about
updating a package with known bugs against a fixed version.
This is something different that updating to the latest and greatast, what
would be 5.7.1, and next wee or so 5.8.0
I contacted the maintainer of the qt build, no  reply.
This is not good.
Bugfix release have to be handled.
In times of git, such an update should just be a pull request.


2017-01-20 9:56 GMT+01:00 Andrzej Telszewski <atelszewski at gmail.com>:

> On 20/01/17 08:18, x80 wrote:
>> I'll add my thoughts as amusement for the group here. As a happy user of
>> Slackware64 14.1 and a Linux user for almost 25 years when I access the
>> slackbuilds repo for a build script I expect it to work, period. The
>> last package I downloaded was the build script for xosd. (Obviously for
>> dinking with my own delusion of programming, we'll not go further into
>> that...) Well, the script did not work without the modification of the
>> $VERSION tag. Not unreasonably, I was able to figure my way out of this,
>> but not without over 20 years of experience diddling scripts and source
>> code. Friends, the build scripts are there for noobies, not guys like
>> me. I appreciate the effort you people put into the site and scripts but
>> really, expect the people who still have 14.0 installed to look up a
>> package and try to install it just to have the script fail like xosd
>> failed on 14.1 for me.
> Errors happen, but more often than not, they are quickly resolved here.
> There is and there always will be some learning curve.
> In short, build scripts are for noobs, and if they can get the software
>> built and installed, then they are not noobs, and noobs don't follow
>> current.
> If I understood correctly, then I don't agree.
> SlackBuilds are for every level of experience.
> For noobs they provide for easier entry point.
> For experienced users, they are incredible time saver.
> It is sad to say, but we don't have the strongest QA possible here.
> People are not able to investigate the source code for possible
> regressions between versions.
> So we do the best we can: we look at ChangeLog and decide if the update
> makes sense.
> Almost nobody here is able to ensure that the update does not break
> something.
> But in the same time, he or she is not able to ensure that the initial
> release will work as expected.
> So, I wouldn't consider updates to be the corner case evil.
> Still and by all means, I consider SBo an invaluable effort and part of my
> actual life.
> --
> Best regards,
> Andrzej Telszewski
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